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Freemen of the dangerous nonsense

Author: Adam Wagner

16 Nov 2011 | 10:53 | 3 comments

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Today (15 Novemeber), guardian.co.uk's Comment is Free (CIF) was "taken over" by the Occupy London movement. This has led to two particularly worrying articles being published. Both purport to offer legal advice which, if followed, could lead you straight to prison.

For that reason, Guardian CIF goes straight to the legal naughty step, where it can share a tent with the Occupy London movement. I understand that the Guardian's online legal editors had nothing to do with the commissioning of the articles, and I also realise that "comment is free". But there has to be a limit, and there is a huge difference between a controversial but plausible point of view and quackery. As CP Scott's phrase continues "... comment is free but facts are sacred".

The two articles are Yes, defaulting on debts is an option and We are the change: welfare, education and law at the Occupy camp. The first offers an alluring way to escape the debt collectors by, it would seem, asking the company's representatives some silly questions to confuse them, and then claiming that all money is illusory anyway (except, of course, the creditor's money which you have spent). I will not attempt to deconstruct the arguments here but will refer you to this excellent post by blogger Legal Bizzle.

The second article, co-authored by "commonly known as dom", propagates the dangerous myths of the Freeman of the Land Movement, described here by legal blogger Carl Gardner. In short, the Freemen believe that if you change your name and deny the jurisdiction of the courts, you will be able to escape (you guessed it) debt collectors, council tax and even criminal charges. As "commonly known as dom" puts it, "if you don't consent to be that "person", you step outside the system".

No you don't. This movement is not just silly, it is also dangerous, and seemingly gaining popularity through numerous internet sites. I can provide two recent examples where it definitely did not help, and probably did harm to, people in the justice system.

The first is the case of Elizabeth Watson and Victoria Haigh, the former of which was sentenced to nine months in prison (later suspended) for publishing details online about sex abuse allegations made by Ms Haigh against her child's father. Haigh's case was taken up by John Hemming MP, and was one of the super-injunctions he revealed using Parliamentary privilege. She was ultimately found by the most senior family judge to be a fabricator who had coached her daughter to lie about being abused by her ex-partner.

Both Haigh and Watson considered themselves Freemen of the Land, who attempted to step outside of the system. It seems likely that at least in Watson's case, her belief that she had "stepped outside of the system" led to her brazenly to flout contempt laws for as long as she did.

My second example arose when I did jury service last month (a generally positive experience - see my comment on it here). One of the trials involved a defendant who was accused of stealing sports cars. When we entered the court, the judge told us that the defendant had released his legal team and was denying the court's jurisdiction. He refused to cross-examine witnesses - rather, he used the opportunity to ask the judge whether his jurisdiction arose from maritime law - and his closing statement involved the reading of a latin phrase and stating that he was the "official representative of the legal fiction known as..."

We found the defendant guilty on seven of eight counts, and I will not say anything about our reasoning. I do suspect that the car stealing defendant's bizarre and misguided defence influenced the judge's sentencing, and I also imagine that if he had retained his representation he may have pleaded guilty in any event. Either way, he probably went to prison for longer as a result of his attempt to trying to "step outside of the system".

Occupy London's takeover of CIF was a cute idea which seems to have gone badly wrong. The only two possible upsides are that, first, through the comments, the views set out in the articles can be given the public shaming which they deserve. Secondly, and somewhat sadly, the fact that this is the best the intellectual members of the Occupy LSX movement can muster exposes the strong possibility that it is being run, in part, by people who should not be allowed anywhere near this country's economy.

I say sadly because I, along with many others, have sympathy for some of the criticisms of government and the economy which the movement has advanced. It should be noted that Occupy is a decentralised movement with no public leaders, and it is therefore possible that everyone who wanted to be in CIF was given the chance. However, it is notable that "occupylsx3" who been responding to many of the comments on the debt article seemingly on behalf of the camp, has responded to mine in this way:
Occupy London does not speak with one voice - within the movement there is much plurality and diversity... getoutofdebtfree.org has helped many people deal with crippling and overwhelming debts... This stuff actually works. It is not ‘dangerous' for those in debt, but perhaps ‘dangerous' for those who created the spurious debt in the first place.

I disagree. "This stuff" is dangerous and it does people harm. The common link between the get out of debt and Freemen articles is that both promote the idea that if you believe hard enough that the financial or legal system does not exist, or is a gigantic fraud, then your problems will disappear along with the system.

These ideas are most attractive to desperate, vulnerable people who are going through terrible times in their lives. They are also classic conspiracy theories which should be consigned to the same category as the "9/11 was an inside job" T-Shirt which one of the debt advice website's representatives is wearing in this YouTube video. The articles' publication on CIF gives the ideas a veneer of respectability they do not deserve.

I very much doubt that the articles represent the views of the many of the thoughtful people who currently occupy the forecourt of St Paul's Cathedral. But if those people are interested in justice and fairness, they should denounce such irresponsible advice. And CIF should not have given a platform to conspiracy theories.

Adam Wagner is a barrister and editor of UK Human Rights Blog, which is written by members of 1 Crown Office Row. Click here to follow Adam on Twitter.

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COMMENTS (TOTAL 3 COMMENTS)

Another way to think of things?

Speaking as a layman, a better way to think of how law applies to people is in terms of some concepts from computing.

We start off with a physical human being; this is the root object. Pointing to this root object are a number of different attributes.

The name of the person is an attribute of the root object, the person. The current (and previous) addresses of the person are attributes pointing back to that person. Sex, gender, blood type, DNA, eye colour; you name it, all of these are attributes pointing back to the physical person.

The law, ALL of the law except where specified otherwise, applies to the physical person i.e. the root object.

Therefore, if hypothetically I steal something from someone else, then the police will charge me (the physical person or root object) with theft. They would normally prefer to know some attributes about me, such as name, address, contact details and these days fingerprints and DNA too, but they do not need these attributes in order to charge, prosecute and punish the physical person or root object according to law.

This is what the Freemen on the Land are getting confused about; the law applies to the physical person (although it may also impinge on attributes of that physical person, such as money owned by this person) and not to the attributes (unless stated).

Gibbering about money, gold standards (why the gold standard? Why not use chickens as a unit of currency? It makes about as much sense), Royal juresdiction and so on is pointless. In terms of Royalty, the reigning monarch is practically defined as the monarch currently on the throne, thus whereas the descendents of William the Conqueror are technically usurpers, practically speaking they're about as Royal as can be. In practical terms the Government is the Monarch these days and whilst ancient treaties such as the Magna Carta can be upheld, it takes more than some pissant petty idiot to make the might of Her Majesty's government take notice.

The only way that some Freemen on the Land seem to win is by being so much trouble to prosecute that the Law gives up on them. This isn't a victory; it is deferring a nasty outcome and I for one will cheer when said nasty outcome befalls the silly fools.

Dan H. -22 Oct 2012 | 21:47

Love it

All the time I have spent helping people at the CAB, preparing income/expenditure budgets, working out realistic repayment schedules, and all I had to say was that the debt never existed in the first place!

The people that write the pieces referred to in your article are dangerous, and unfortunately, the people that believe them are often the most vulnerable - it's a shame that your article hasn't been published in the Grauniad to rebut Jon Witterick's fairy story!

Adam Costello -24 Oct 2012 | 09:26

Crazy fools

Freeman must be smart enough to realize that 'enforcing statutes' keeps these judges and solicitors in there lofty privileged jobs. There is simply no incentive for a court room to accept only 'Common law' and reject the Law of statutes. Whether they can qualify what there saying or not.
I think what they have highlighted though is that there is a lack of knowledge/general ignorance about Law. I think the idea that ignorance is no defense is repugnant. If you are not educated about law then how can you live within it. The mechanics of law make the country what it is today. Our knowledge of law should be extensive not sketchy. I think there is an argument for a compulsory GCSE in Law. To be as vital as English and Math.

Paul -31 Oct 2012 | 00:59

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